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Merging Variant pages

452 September 7, 2013 User blog:452
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This discussion is related to the Vehicle to-do list.


We currently have a bit of an issue about about what we should do about similar vehicle articles.

So far, the rule of thumb on the wiki has always been:

If it has a different name in the garage, it gets a dedicated article.

This might seem pretty obvious, but it's important because some vehicles have multiple names. Such as these Saints Row 2 vehicles:

These vehicles are literally the same. When you take them to the Car Mechanic, they have the same options, and they have all the same handling data.

They are as much the same vehicle as hard-top and convertible variants of other vehicles are the same. In fact, due to a programming error, when you use the Vehicle Delivery homie, these variants display the original name of the vehicle, proving beyond any doubt that they are the same. (This bug was fixed in SRTT)

However, they've always had separate articles, because they have different display names, so to the layman, they're different vehicles.

Saints Row: The Third does not use alternate display names for variants, with the exception of the Longhauler/Mix Master, carried over from Saints Row 2.

However, Saints Row: The Third introduced several separate vehicles which are clearly based on existing vehicles.

There are several DLC vehicles which are simply reskins, but are defined as separate vehicles due to the fact they are DLC. Since they also had different names, it seemed simple enough at the time to just have separate articles, although they are basically the same vehicle.

Saints Row IV has messed things up a little, as the Wraith is now actually a variant of the Attrazione, and not a separate vehicle.


Reward vehicles which are variants:

Reward vehicles which are separate vehicles:

As you can see, it's kind of all over the place.

Since there are all kinds of unique variants with the same name anyway, I don't know why I didn't just propose merging all "same vehicles" years ago. Which is what I am formally doing now.

I propose merging all of the above variant into their respective base vehicle articles.

After all of that, we're still left with

I propose:

Option 1
  • Fer de Lance, covering the SR1 Fer de Lance and the SRIV Peacemaker.
  • Peacemaker, covering the SRTT Peacemaker and the SRIV Pacemaker.

With a notice at the top of the Peacemaker article to see the Fer de Lance article, and redirect for the Pacemaker.

Why? Because they are the same vehicle.

  • The internal name for the Fer de Lance is car_2dr_exoticsports02
  • The internal name for the SRIV Peacemaker is car_2dr_exoticsports02
Option 2
  • Fer de Lance
  • Peacemaker - disambiguation page
  • Peacemaker (Saints Row: The Third)
  • Peacemaker (Saints Row IV)
  • Pacemaker
  • Taxi
  • Taxi (Saints Row IV)

The original Taxi would not have games in the title, because it appeared in three games.
All of these would have disambig links to the other articles.

Option 3
  • Fer de Lance
  • Peacemaker - covering the original
  • Peacemaker (Fer de Lance)
  • Pacemaker
  • Taxi
  • Taxi (Kayak)

For now, we make them separate articles, and after they've been pimped out, we compare them and see if there is any merit to keeping them separate.
That's what has happened with the SR2 variants: They have been separate, but taking a good look at them now, it's obvious that they should be merged.

We may find that there's little unique info in the any one of those articles, but the best way to find out is to just try them separately and review them later.

18:01, January 17, 2015 (UTC)

As of Jan 2015, the articles are

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