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Posted by 452 on 2013-08-18 23:15:23

The phrase "Han shot first" refers to a changed scene in the 1997 re-release of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope

Originally, Han Solo shot and killed a bounty hunter, notably firing the first shot.
In the 1997 re-release, the scene was changed so that Greedo, the bounty hunter, shot first and missed.
(Incidentally, Han's gun is what the Renegade Pistol is based on.)

This kind of change is called a "ret-con" or "retroactive continuity", which basically means that the writer changed what already happened. In video games, this can happen in two ways: patches to actually "change" the content, or sequels re-telling what happened in a different way, in order to better serve the plot of the sequel. Many video game series completely ignore continuity, while reusing characters, names, places and themes to tell a different story.

The reason that "Han shot first" has a wikipedia article is that this change was quite controversial, and many people disagreed with it being changed.
This wiki doesn't care about controversy, the goal of this wiki is to document the games, as games. As such, this wiki doesn't really concern itself with "continuity", resolving inconsistencies or attempting to make sense of a game whose motto is "embrace the crazy".

Example: Timeline.


Everyone is welcome to have their own opinions, but opinions do not belong in the articles of this wiki. Whether or not you agree with George Lucas changing the established events of the series is irrelevant to this wiki.

Example: Saints Row IV says that Jyunichi was leader of the Ronin. This does not mean that he is retroactively regarded as the leader.

The Saints Row series has many plot holes, and there are many things which do not "make sense".

Example: The different voices of The Protagonist each have incompatible back-stories revealed in quotes. It's impossible for everything that every voice says to have happened to the same character.

If two things don't make sense together, this wiki simply presents the facts from the game. If a character's eyes are blue in one game and green in the next, we don't say they were green all along, we simply state that they were blue in one game and green in the next.

Example: This wiki doesn't attempt to explain why there is suddenly a prison island and nuclear power plant. This wiki just states that they were not present in Saints Row, and they are present in Saints Row 2.

This wiki also doesn't place itself within the continuity of the game. If a character dies in a game, we do not say "Nathan is deceased", we say "Nathan is killed in Saints Row X", with a reference to the mission "Nathan's New Digs".

None of this is new, this blog post is just an explanation of the policy which has been in effect for years.

As with all policies, discussion is welcome, because it helps to refine, revise, explain and improve them.

452, 2013-08-18T23:15:23Z (last edited: 452, 2015-03-07T19:23:38Z)

You lied I read it
Toa Quarax, 2013-08-18T23:19:50Z
Note to everyone not in on the joke: I said in the chat that no-one was going to read the blog post.
452, 2013-08-18T23:27:26Z
Beautifully put.
Moozipan Cheese, 2013-08-25T19:38:45Z

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