Talk: Weapons in Saints Row 2/Camera

Deletion[]

If information regarding this items status as a weapon is not added to this article within 1 month, it will be deleted.

This weapon is not listed as a weapon in the game data files.
The article states that the cameraman will not attack people with it. Therefore it is not a weapon.
It is listed as a normal item model.
The name of this model is NOT "camera", why was it created with that name?

-452 22:39, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

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(Note: Images of modifications have been removed. -452 08:23, August 20, 2011 (UTC))

Keroro1keroro1 09:57, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thankyou for the screenshots, but you are using a mod.

See here: user:452/Files/Store_weapons.xtbl (link now removed). This is the original file, and it is not there. MY files are not modified, and I extracted them from the PC disc myself. Where did you get your files?

A screenshot proves nothing. ANY model in the game can be modded to be used as a weapon, and is obviously the product of modding, because the screenshot shows: a FIST icon, and the word "Bong" under it. why is the word "Bong" next to the word Camera? Do you think the Bong is a weapon as well? -452 14:48, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

These other files can definitely also be used as weapons, as they are items that NPCs can hold:

cigarrette (This should be easy, since the protagonist already uses it)
jackhammer
notepad
pencil
protestburning
protestultor
protestviolence
slrcamera

-452 14:59, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Did you Check the "weapons.xtbl" , "video_camera" is Already inside there.I haven't mod "weapons.xtbl"

I also found "heli_fighter_01" "truck_2dr_septic01_Front" "truck_2dr_septic01_Rear" "truck_2dr_fire01" "plane_fighter01"

"plane_biplane01" "cellphone"..........,and I use the same way to get it.

why I mod "Store_weapons.xtbl", because I need mod it to UNLOCK it , and BUY in the store.

and why the video_camera be called "Bong"? I don't know.I just unlock it and see it.

Keroro1keroro1 15:32, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

BTW,I can't find "Smoke Grenade" in "weapons.xtbl",so I can't get it.

Yes, I did check "weapons.xtbl", that's how I knew that the name of the item was not "camera".

"heli_fighter_01", "truck_2dr_septic01_Front", "truck_2dr_septic01_Rear", "truck_2dr_fire01", "plane_fighter01", "plane_biplane01" are listed here: Weapons in Saints Row 2#Vehicle-Mounted Weapons (Also sp_novelty01, sp_apc01)

What happens if you try to add the bean bag gun and pcp? -452 15:53, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, the bean bag gun even has a real name: "bean_bag_gun": "CKH Riot Special" -452 16:01, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Note: Images of modifications have been removed. The games files can be modified to use ANY model in the game as any weapon, therefore these images serve no purpose. -452 18:22, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Adding new weapons[]

BTW,I can't find "Smoke Grenade" in "weapons.xtbl",so I can't get it. - Keroro1keroro1 15:32, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

(I'm splitting this quote out as it's a different topic)

To add Smoke Grenades, and all other items, you will need to edit ITEMS_3D.XTBL and ITEMS_INVENTORY.XTBL

These are the intermediary files which connect names to models.

For instance, the weapon name of Pipe bombs is "pipe_bombs", but the filename is "p_pipebomb.smeshx". ITEMS_3D.XTBL connects those two different names. You should be able to change "p_pipebomb" to "p_smokebomb".

ITEMS_INVENTORY.XTBL is why the camera is listed as "Bong", with the Fist icon. You can also edit that. :)

You should be able to turn any item in ITEMS_3D.XTBL into a weapon by adding them to Store_weapons.xtbl and Weapons.xtbl

The camera is in "<Category>Cutscene/Mission</Category>", along with a lot of other mission items, not in "<Category>Weapon".

I think we should add a new section "Items" to the Weapons page, for all of these (Jessica's keys, voodoo doll, etc), because they are still not weapons, due to the fact they are missing weapon icons, and the model names do not match the model names of other weapons. -452 16:52, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I have to go out for lunch now, but the very next thing I'm going to do is process both ITEMS_INVENTORY.XTBL and ITEMS_3D.XTBL into tables so we can easily see the list of items/weapons/names/models, which will help with adding them to the game. :) -452 16:57, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

As promised: Forum:Weapons -452 06:30, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

More evidence.[]

Weapon (and drugs/food/clip) texture files begin with "p_" (I've highlighted the interesting ones)

p_ak47
p_ak47mag
p_aluminumbat normal baseball bat
p_annihilator
p_annirocket
p_ar200
p_ar200_mag
p_ar50
p_ar50_mag
p_ar50grenade
p_ar50rpg
p_as14
p_as14_mag
p_batwood - alternate bat, made of wood?
p_beretta
p_blunt
p_bong
p_brassknuckles - proof that Brass Knuckles are a weapon
p_brassknucklesb
p_butterflyknife
p_camera - No, this is no proof, see below
p_chainsaw
p_coin - The coins that are dropped
p_colt_anaconda
p_colt_mag
p_colt_magout
p_dblb_shotgun
p_dollarbill - The notes that are dropped
p_dollarbill20
p_doughnut
p_flamethrower
p_flashbang
p_foamfinger
p_foamnumber1
p_foamrocker
p_foamshocker - As File:P foamnumber1 foamfingerback.png shows, there are 4 pimp slaps.
p_gal43
p_gal43_mag
p_glock21c
p_guitar - Interesting, perhaps this is Matt's guitar. There is a guitar improvised weapon object also, but this is different.
p_holt55
p_holt55clip
p_inhaler - This is interesting, I don't know what this is.
p_kab
p_keys - Jessicas keys
p_knife
p_laser_rpg
p_laser_rpgprojectile
p_m32
p_m32mag
p_mac_10
p_mac_10mag
p_machete
p_mcmanus
p_mcmanusclip
p_miniguntest
p_molotov
p_pcp - Texture file is: "p_pcp - drugsyringe_gl.png". It's a syringe, and there is a listing in "static_US.le_strings.txt" showing that it is a weapon. Perhaps you grab people and inject them?
p_pepperspray
p_pipe
p_pipebomb
p_riot_shield - The masako use these in cutscenes.
p_rpg
p_rpgprojectile
p_samurai_sword
p_satchelcharge
p_schlchgremote
p_shockpadbase
p_shockpaddles
p_shotgun
p_skr-9
p_skr-9_mag
p_sledgehammer
p_smokebomb - The smokebomb I recently added.
p_sniper
p_snipermag
p_spas_12
p_spas_12b
p_spliff
p_spraypaint - Not really a weapon, since you can only use it while tagging, but must be here since the protagonist can hold it like a weapon.
p_stungun
p_tec9
p_tec9b
p_tire_iron
p_tonfa
p_ultimax
p_ultimaxdrum
p_watergun - I'm not sure what this is.

p_camera

In "static_US.le_strings.txt", there is a line: "Camera": "Camera"

"Camera" is the still photography camera that the protagonist pulls out when idle. NOT the video camera, the video camera is called "newscamera", and does NOT have an entry listing in "static_US.le_strings.txt", because it was never supposed to be used as a weapon.

(BTW, there is also a "smoke_grenade": "Smoke Grenade" line in that file.) -452 15:28, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Deletion[]

As per proposal, this page has been deleted. A note has been added to the trivia section of the Fuzz article, as well as image from the this article.
A full list of Special Objects, including the camera, has been added to Weapons in Saints Row 2#Special Objects -452 02:20, June 27, 2011 (UTC)