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Contents 1 Greek ruins 2 Sources 3 2008 billboard 4 Calendars 5 2003-2008 6 Period between games 7 game texts 8 2003 9 What? 10 Gat's arrest

Greek ruins Edit

Also, there are multiple references to the Greek god Poseidon, if the ruins were Roman, it would probably be Neptune's Casino ;) -User452 18:24, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

I probably should also mention that they are obviously Greek ruins, because the secret areas named "Parthenon Ruins". The Parthenon is greek, and the ruins in Stilwater look very similar. When people talk about Roman ruins, they're usually thinking of the Roman Forum, which looks nothing like the Parthenon. -User452 18:34, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ugh I have no idea why he deleted it, atleast what you said about the greek god backs up that it is greek. I wonder what actually went down in stilwater, around it is greek buildings that are under water, is it possible that small islands sunk into the water (I'm not saying ocean since its more like a big lake) during an earth quake. -User:Alz-da-dog 18:36, March 22, 2011

I think they creators probably didn't really think too hard about what it meant for obviously Greek ruins to be present in a city in the USA, I think they just did it because it looks cool ;)

Btw, you can respond on the timeline talk page, I get email notifications on pages I've left a message. It's easier that way :) -User452 18:44, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

The parathenon (I think I spelled that wrong :-( ) ruins can be found in Amberbrook, and the Parathenon was a greek marvel. It is only logical that the other ruins are greek archiecture, as they also follow similar appearance to such. Buy Jove is also a greek store. -Spedster777 17:37, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

User:Alz-da-dog was responding to Talk:Timeline, where I mentioned and linked to the Parthenon. (and this is exactly why I don't like conversations being spread over multiple pages) -User452 17:40, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

(Moved conversation from my talk page to here)

Also, the sign near the ruins says "eromenos museum", according to those google results, eromenos is a Greek word. -User452 01:27, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

The Greek Ruins are obviously a commercial ploy by Stillwater to draw in tourists. The Greeks were completely ill-equipped to attempt to navigate the Atlantic Ocean. Also the 'ruins' were built on top of a freakin near impossible to ascend hill. This and the fact that the area where the ruins are located is perfectly geometric indicate that this are was created to serve as a harbor, that sort of project indicates that it is at least 19th or 20th century, certainly not a 13th century Greek colony that somehow wandered onto a new continent. --KotorGirl 07:50, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

It's important to remember that this is just a video game, and the seaworthiness of the Ancient Greeks doesn't really matter, as the game is not supposed to be historically accurate.

The thing about "ancient" ruins is that the landscape can change. Assuming the ruins are authentic, the hill has probably been eroded over time. You do have a point that the whole area is a tourist trap, so it's entirely possible that it is all fake, especially considering that that area doesn't exist in Saints Row. However, that doesn't explain the half-submerged ruins, or the ruins on the secret island.

I doubt Volition intended it to be examined in such great detail. In any case, it doesn't matter to the plot of the game, so it doesn't really need to be mentioned the timeline article. -User452 03:36, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

SourcesEdit

I think it might be a good idea to include references for the dates, since there are multiple conflicting sources (and for years people have been unclear about dates on this wikia) -User452 18:24, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

2008 billboard Edit

Saints Row 2: "Dharphilinx Theatre" in Sunsinger, Billboard for upcoming "Planet of the TJs", says it comes out on 6-07-08 (2008-06-07). The theatre appears to be open, so there is no reason for an old billboard to be present unless the game takes place prior to this.

The Billboard for "Guy" in Filmore SE from (king plaza station) says it comes out 2-14-09 (2009-02-14). Again, new looking billboard in the Downtown District isn't going to be out of date.

Also, all calendars in the game are set to August or September. Meaning it's probably September in the game and some people haven't changed their calendars yet.

According to the in-game evidence, Saints Row 2 either takes place in September of 2007 or 2008 (Maybe the Dharphilinx billboard is a little out of date) -User452 14:46, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

User:NT92 has pointed out that multiple unlock screens mentioned that it is 2008. I have the images extracted, so I've gone through all of them and these are the references i have found:

• All Boost magazines says Check out our list of the "Best Rim jobs of 2008!"
• "Body Bags" magazine shown when the Samedi fighting style is unlocked says 2008's Best and worst dressed brawlers (Also on the Brotherhood fighting style screen)
• The Boost magazine for the General's bulldog has a mailing label address to Johnny Gat and says it is the Aug08 issue. (Same with the Ronin vehicles, Kaneda, medical helicopter, Bear, The Duke, Toad, Firetruck, Pheonix, Mongoose, Kent, eiswolf)
• The Stilwater Surplus magazine shown when the GAL 43 is unlocked says What's hot for 2008 and Gun of the Month Calendar 2008 (That this magazine is tattered, indicating it is an old issue.) (Similar for the Annihilator, Flamethrower, Kobra, Pimp Cane, Grenades, AR-50 w/Grenade Launcher, Shock Paddles, chainsaw, pepper spray, minigun)
• The Couture magazine also has Gat's address and the Aug08 date. (Seen on Cowboy Hat, Pimp hat, fireman outfit, )

So it is definitely set in either Aug or Sept 2008. As I said earlier, some calendars say Sept, so I believe it is early Sept and some people haven't changed their calendars yet. -User452 18:14, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

The fact could be that the calenders in the game have nothing to do with the in game timeline, but to do with developer timeline as September 2008 was probably when Volition fully developed the game ready for an October 2008 release, also in the game if you look at the clocks you will notice that the time is always 8.22

In GTA San Andreaas the Advertisement for the Loc Down clothing range has the slogan "Gangsta since 2002", but the game is set in 1992, the date in the advertisement is probaply an indication to when Rockstar North began developing GTA San Andreas, giving credence that in game calenders and dates on billboards mean nothing to the in game timelines in videogames, but to the development of videogames (unsigned: Special:Contributions/2.125.65.168 2.125.65.168, 11:47, June 20, 2011)

If you would like to get Volition to make an official statement to that effect, then we can put this matter to rest. -User452 11:11, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Calendars Edit

These are all the calendars I have found.-User452 17:39, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I've added a fourth image. Apparently Chief Monroe - who you kill in Saints Row - died in 2008. So it would appear there is evidence that both Saints Row and Saints Row 2 took place in 2008. :/ -User452 06:38, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

2003-2008 Edit

I have read the guides and manuals for both Saints Row and Saints Row 2. Saints Row was dated in 2003 and Saints Row 2 was dated in 2008. In Saints Row 2, it was stated that the protagonist has been in a coma for 5 years after Saints Row 1. The year could be found on calendars and businesses and it was found on a van the protagonist drives in a mission. The developers even have said that Saints Row 2 would take place 5 years after. McManus 2010 was a coincidence.

If you had read both manuals you would have noticed that Troy Bradshaw's article on being undercover is dated Sunday September 3 2006 in the manual for the first game and in the article he is still undercover (unsigned: Special:Contributions/2.125.65.168 2.125.65.168, 11:47, June 20, 2011)

Please lose the attitude, and please sign your comments with ~~~~

I have read both manuals, I must have missed that part, thanks for pointing it out. Feel free to scan that and upload it here. -User452 11:11, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

No need to scan it after all, it's a free download from xbox.com, so Here it is

The first newspaper clipping, about Aisha's new single, is dated Feb 2006, and the interview with Troy is dated Sept 2006, as you said. -User452 09:06, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Period between games Edit

So is it ever explicitly said in Saints Row 2 that five years have passed, since it looks like only around two years have passed (even if the evidence is at times a little sketchy). – Moozipan Cheese^{(talk page)} 16:04, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

I seem to remember hearing 5 years, but I just found something interesting.

JULIUS_CHURCH_VO_06: "... After painstaking and exacting restoration efforts spanning two years, Ultor is proud to open these church doors once again." - this audio file is uploaded on the Saints Row Church page too.

Makes sense, Gat would have had to have been arrested before Ultor started. Every other reference in the game files say "years ago", so now I'm really not sure. -User452 19:42, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

So it definitely "years" that have passed, just no indication that there's five, then? – Moozipan Cheese^{(talk page)} 12:28, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Definitely at least 2 years. --user452 07:08, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

game texts Edit

Other game texts containing the word "years"

• "HELP_TEXT_SAINTS": "Once the kings of the city, the Saints have been forced out of their home of Saints Row by the Ultor Corporation: a giant conglomerate that gentrified the once poor neighborhood. Now operating out of an abandoned hotel, the Saints are looking to reclaim the glory that they lost several years ago.
• "BFPLAYER_TSSP2_EXCHANGE_02": "How long were you in jail anyway?
• "GAT_TSSP2_EXCHANGE_03": "Two years and 31 days.

--user452 21:14, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I suppose that's something. – Moozipan Cheese^{(talk page)} 12:22, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Everything i can find via Google, from press releases on news sites to professional critics, says 5 years. It must have been in something official. Ah, here we go, the THQ store page says, "Five years have passed since your former Saints crew betrayed you. As you awake from a coma for the first time since that fateful day, you find the Stilwater you once ruled is in disarray."

Although, you've got this pre-release interview that says it's about 20 years. :) 184.158.73.8 20:40, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Those are some nice finds. I think 20 years is a little too much though. I still think some in-game confirmation would be best. – Moozipan Cheese^{(talk page)} 20:59, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

2003 Edit

An anon user has added this to the Saints Penthouse article: "A Friendly Fire calender in the kitchen shows the date March, 2003"
This really needs to be verified. --user452 22:10, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Just got round to checking and yes, it's true. – Moozipan Cheese^{(talk page)} 13:04, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks. --user452 06:42, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

I just found the image in the data files and came here to add it myself, haha.

What I didn't really think about earlier was... that's current-Shaundi's ass. on a calendar from 2003. --user452 15:35, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

She has a nice ass. – Moozipan Cheese^{(talk page)} 22:02, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

A timeline defying ass. But do you think it's a canonical ass? --user452 23:50, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

What? Edit

How the hell could Ben King have formed the Vice Kings in the 1970s when the events of the first Saints Row took place in 2006? What kind of twisted timing is being used there? ASCOTTYJ 04:50, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

This article is in seriously need of an overhaul, but yeah, the Vice Kings (and Los Carnales) were formed long before the events of Saints Row. I'm not sure if it's ever said to be in the 1970s though. – Moozipan Cheese^{(talk page)} 12:22, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Gat's arrestEdit

If you pay attention during the first mid-mission cutscene in Appointed Defender, Jane states that Gat was arrested "last year". Later in the same mission, after rescuing Gat, he states that he was in jail for ""Two years and 31 days". If you can count, you'll notice that it's impossible for both Jane's and Johnny's statements to be right. --user452 07:07, June 18, 2012 (UTC)