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Old Stilwater is a Neighborhood in the Underground District of Stilwater.

Overview[]

Unlike most Neighborhoods, Old Stilwater does not appear on the map, as it is located underground. The only entrance is the old mission house in the Bavogian Plaza Neighborhood in the Red Light District.

Bums control this neighborhood, until Playa and Johnny Gat kill all the inhabitants and claim it for the Saints.[1]

The 3rd Street Saints claim an unnamed hotel as the Saints Hideout, which is their primary base for the remainder of the game, which they renovate as the story progresses.

Although the Saints are supposed to have cleared out the bums,[1] a few still spawn outside of the Saints Hideout itself.

There are no Activities or Stores in Old Stilwater, although there are two Tagging locations.

Earthquake[]

During the mission "Down Payment", Johnny explains that an earthquake destroyed part of the city, and that the wreckage was built over. Gat talking about the earthquake

The earthquake occurred prior to Saints Row, as the area above Old Stilwater already exists in that game. The area looks to have been abandoned and destroyed in the early 40s to late 50s, given abandoned railcars are from around that time, and the dates on the manhole covers.[2]

Stilwater may have had several Earthquakes in the past, as the Stoughton docks are under water in Saints Row 2.

Knight Plaza[]

Knight Plaza sign

Knight Plaza is an even lower section of Old Stilwater which was established in 1783, predating the foundation of Stilwater itself. Unlike the rest of Old Stilwater, it is paved in cobblestones and overgrown with vines.

The plaza contains:

  • Blake Low's Wigs and Whiskers
  • Eads N' Mitch's Flowery Garden
  • Tim Wasson's Tasty Wieners (a factory of the same name is located in Stoughton)
  • Old Town grocery house
  • Tom's Garage
  • An unnamed hotel with an art deco design from the 1950s.

Zombie Uprising takes place in Knight Plaza, but it is not possible to leave that area without exiting the Zombie Uprising game.

There is a fountain in Knight Plaza which is usually normal water, but while playing Zombie Uprising acts like toxic acid.

Trivia[]

  • There are skylights, or holes, visible on the ceiling above Old Stilwater, but these openings are not visible from the surface.
  • Old Stilwater is one of several underground areas that have their own separate maps and do not appear on the main map.
    • All underground areas are part of a single Underground District, but this is never indicated within the game.
  • In some parts of Old Stilwater, there are rats squeaking.
  • There is a corridor where low resolution textures are visible.[3]
    • In this corridor, low-resolution civilian models sometimes appear for a few seconds, then disappear. Due to low resolution textures and lighting, they sometimes resemble ghosts.
  • There is a pile of trash containing a dead body, this trash pile is repeated several times throughout Old Stilwater, including just outside of both exits from the Saints Hideout, and at least 4 times in Knight Plaza.
  • Old Stilwater is the only hood defined as being controlled by a Neutral Gang.
  • The internal name for the hood is "shantytown".
  • Old Stilwater contains light rail trains, and several light rail cars labelled "L.O.C.C.O".

Gallery[]

Old Stilwater map with border enabled

Old Stilwater map with border enabled

Underground district - Old Stilwater map

Underground district - Old Stilwater map

Old Stilwater
Old Stilwater - Bums still present after Down Payment

Old Stilwater - Bums still present after Down Payment

Mt Claflin shantblake d

Signs in Old Stilwater

Blake Low's Wigs and Whiskers and Eads n' Mitch's Flowery Garden

Blake Low's Wigs and Whiskers

Old Stilwater - Eads N Mitch's Flowery Garden

Eads N Mitch's Flowery Garden

Old Stilwater - Tim Wasson's Tasty Wieners

Tim Wasson's Tasty Wieners

Old Stilwater - acid pool non-acidic outside Zombie Uprising

Fountain is non-acidic outside Zombie Uprising

Old Stilwater - corridor with loading issues

Old Stilwater - corridor with loading issues where low resolution Civilian models appear

Old Stilwater manhole cover texture

1940 Manhole Cover

Old Stilwater - Flavin St sign

Flavin St


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