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  • 452

    900 referenced articles

    June 3, 2016 by 452

    As of today, there are 900 articles with references, which is appropriately two thirds of all articles.

    The Saints Row Wiki is more verifiably accurate than ever!

    Currently, there are still 250 articles with reference requests, and 35 articles with unlabelled references which need to be updated.

    When I first started, there were no references at all. Soon after I joined, a basic version of references was introduced. A few months later, I created , and have been improving it gradually over the years.

    At first, I didn't see the point of references, but after encountering the pervasive notion that "wikis can be edited by anyone therefore are unreliable", I soon came to the realisation that the best way to combat this ignorance was by using references where-ever possible.

    The beauty of a wiki is that anyone can challenge the accuracy of information. Anyone can edit an article and add to mark something with needs a reference.

    References have become especially important when adding pre-release…

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  • 452

    Image policy simplified

    March 5, 2016 by 452

    The image policy here is very simple, but Saints Row Wiki:File Policies has ended up to be pretty long, so here's a different version of it.

    Am I allowed to upload this image?


    • A better quality image already exists on the wiki
    • The image is poorly named
    • The image has no purpose
    • The image is somehow deceptive

    Images may be immediately deleted for any of these 4 reasons.

    Am I allowed to replace this image with a better one?

    Replacing images with higher quality versions is encouraged. Category:Image requests contains a long list of files which need to be replaced, but you can replace any image with a better quality one, or mark any low quality image for replacement so that others know about it.

    Here are some reasons to replace an image, or to mark an image for replacement:

    • Blurry
    • TV photo
    • Low quality
    • Watermarked
    • Low resolution
    • Incorrect aspect ratio
    • Screenshot of youtube video
    • Edited, including borders or writing
    • Modded content visible for no reason
    • The Protagonist…
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  • 452

    Updating references

    April 11, 2015 by 452

    As you may have noticed, I've been periodically updating old references since December.

    There are currently 3 maintenance pages listing references which need to be updated. These are relatively easy tasks which anyone can do, and are a great way for new contributors to increase their edit count.

    References needing descriptions

    References which are missing various types of descriptions, including image and youtube references without captions, as well as raw links.

    This is the most important of these three tasks, because adding descriptions improves the wiki. I have already updated several hundred of these over the past 5 months, and am I leaving it to others to add captions to images and descriptions to youtube links.

    As well as being listed on that page, and categorised, references without descriptions are marked in red }} in articles to draw attention to them.

    Long unnamed references

    References over characters long, which should be changed to named references to reduce the size. Details …

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  • 452

    New Hades Map

    January 23, 2015 by 452

    I enabled the new Wikia Maps feature a few months ago, but there hasn't been much activity so far, so I've gone ahead and created a New Hades map.

    User:WildBrick142 and I have been adding pins to the map, but everyone is welcome to help out.

    Please add any and all locations in Saints Row: Gat out of Hell!

    But please be careful, as it's easy to accidentally click delete instead of cancel. Needless to say, anyone who deliberately vandalises the map will be blocked from the wiki.

    The map can be accessed via Special:Maps/7942, or by clicking the map below.

    If you would like to practice and make test edits, please go to instead of using a map here.

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  • 452

    User Groups 2015

    January 8, 2015 by 452

    This has now been done. All "Task Forces" are now "To-do lists", located in Category:To-do.


    The name "Task Forces" was chosen because it was the best we could come up with.

    However, I've since realised that the name "To-do lists" would probably work better.

    I propose that Task Forces be renamed "To-do lists".

    Can anyone think of a reason they shouldn't be renamed, or come up with a better name?


    Category:To-do/Activity "Check the Activity to-do list for ways to improve Activity articles."
    Category:To-do/Audio "Check the Audio to-do list for ways to improve Audio articles."
    Category:To-do/Character "Check the Character to-do list for ways to improve Character articles."
    Category:To-do/Customization "Check the Customization to-do list for ways to improve Customization articles."
    Category:To-do/DLC "Check the DLC to-do list for ways to improve DLC articles."
    Category:To-do/Location "Check the Location to-do list for ways to improve Location articles."
    Category:To-do/Mission "…

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  • 452

    Inter-wikia links

    September 13, 2014 by 452

    Required reading: User_blog:452/Always_ask_questions, Help:Interwiki links.

    Since May, I've been attempting to find out the reasons behind the wide-spread use of using interwiki links to link to other Wikia wikis.

    Special:LinkSearch is used to search for external links. Interwiki links do not appear in the list, because they are not registered as being external. This is a known disadvantage listed on Meta:Help:Interwiki_linking

    I have not been able to find any advantages to using interwikia links.

    During my search, I have been called "dumb" for using external links instead of interwiki links, a "fool" for not learning that "I should just do what everyone else does", and had my inquiry thread on Community Central locked for dismissing suggestions were not relevant to my question.

    Most reasons behind using interwiki links are related to non-wikia issues, and using interwikia links is something that appears to have happened due to people starting on wikipedia, or on a wikia wiki which copies …

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  • 452

    Monthly Wiki cursor

    September 8, 2014 by 452

    3 months ago, I proposed that the mouse cursor used on the wiki be changed. As there have been more votes for than against, and no vocal opposition, I have now changed it.

    The current cursor is now .

    The poll for next month's cursor is at Top 10 list:Next month's mouse cursor.

    • If there is no clear winner of each poll on the 1st of each month, the poll will continue until there is.
    • Anyone may propose cursors.
    • Cursors must be Saints Row-related.
    • Cursors must have a visible "point".
    • Existing images may be rotated to the correct orientation.

    (I will edit this post with updates.)

    If you do not wish to use the custom cursor, you are free to set your own in your personal css:

    • Edit
    • To use the default, add:
    • To use an alternate custom custom, add:
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  • 452

    Shortening DLC titles

    August 19, 2014 by 452

    In March, I posted a poll "Shortening DLC titles", with two options:

    • Use official titles only, no matter how long they are. (37 votes)
    • Shorten "Saints Row 2: Corporate Warfare" to "Corporate Warfare" (And all similar titles) (2 votes)

    Not a single person gave a reason for their vote. One person left a comment "Looks more proffesional." without stating which looks more professional.

    Despite 37 voting for long titles, not a single person renamed "How the Saints Save Christmas" to "Saints Row IV: How the Saints Save Christmas", and every single person linking to it linked to "How the Saints Save Christmas" instead of "Saints Row IV: How the Saints Save Christmas"

    This tells me that, in practice, people either prefer shorter titles, or don't care.

    Therefore, this is an announcement that in one month from now, "Use short forms of DLC titles" will become policy unless people give reasons why it should not.

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  • 452

    Disambiguating titles

    April 24, 2014 by 452

    There are many subjects in the Saints Row series which share the same title, so out of necessity, we have pages on the wiki which have notes in the page title to differentiate between them.

    • For example: Guardian Angel (Mission) and Guardian Angel (Activity)

    Since the first words of each is "Guardian Angel" is a ...., the displayed title is a little redundant. The second line on both of those pages is a link to the other.

    So, we're doing a trial run of hiding the (Mission) and (Activity) part of the title on these pages, and on all other similar pages.

    I'd like some feedback on whether or not you find it confusing.

    A similar method of changing the title is also being used on all Disambiguation pages.

    Here's the full list:

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  • 452

    The new VisualEditor

    April 12, 2014 by 452

    Wikia Staff have been developing a new VisualEditor for several months now, and until recently it has been optional feature which the local admins of each wiki could choose whether to enable.

    I approve of the concept in principle, but after testing it, I made the determination that it was not yet mature enough to enable on this wiki. (See below for an explanation.)

    Wikia Staff have now soft-enabled the new VisualEditor on all wikis - you can set it in your preferences, or choose it from the edit drop-down menu. As soon as this happened, I made a test edit - it erased a section. I immediately reported this and asked for the feature to be disabled until it was finished, but it is still enabled. They did not tell me "no", they just thanked me for reporting the bug.

    I do not support the premature activation of this feature, and encourage people to avoid using it. Fortunately, no-one is being forced to use it yet, but eventually, it will replace the current "Visual" editor. Hopefully th…

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  • 452

    User Stars

    February 21, 2014 by 452

    You may have noticed that some users have custom icons in their user header. We call these "User Stars", as they started out as "Gold Stars" which were given for outstanding contributions, although now any image on the wiki can be used. A display of all currently defined user stars is available at User:Test.

    If you think that someone's contributions deserve a user star, contact an admin and let them know.

    As an example, here are some reasons user stars have been given in the past:

    • creating an fantastic article in a single edit
    • adding transcripts
    • figuring out how to get 10 Satchel Charges
    • being a great photographer
    • taking a screenshot of one of each vehicle in Saints Row: The Third
    • bringing long-term false information to light
    • adding excellent captions
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  • 452

    Fluid layout

    December 5, 2013 by 452

    As you may have noticed, Wikia rolled out their fluid layout to all wikis today. Now, more horizontal space is utilised by article content, which is a good thing. Now everyone benefits from seeing more of an article without scrolling: people with huge monitors, people with tablets, or just people who like to resize their browser.

    Of course, not everyone is happy about the change, but Wikia have been very working on it very openly for months, and appear to be listening to a lot of feedback. There are bound to be more than a few further improvements, so if you have any ideas, be sure to let them know.

    But if you see any problems specific to the Saints Row Wiki, be sure to let me know. I've only been testing the fluid layout with this wiki's skin for a few weeks, and there were a lot of little tweaks necessary, so I'm sure there's one or two things I missed. (I'm about to fix another after this post.)

    Apart from "there is greater article width", one extra thing you may notice is that ther…

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  • 452

    On the Wiki links removed

    October 9, 2013 by 452

    Oasis users may notice that the "On the Wiki" navbar is slightly less useful today, as the links to "Recent Changes" and "New Pages" have been removed. (Monobook users are not affected by this change, their links are intact.)

    It was not my decision to remove the links, and I'm sorry I could not get them re-added. We encourage everybody on the wiki to use both "Recent Changes" and "New Pages" regularly, as these are the most effective ways of monitoring recent additions to the wiki.

    If you would like re-add these links for personal use:

    1. Go here: Special:MyPage/wikia.js
    2. Add this line:

    If you would like to petition Wikia to allow us to add links, please do so via Special:Contact.

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  • 452

    Templates dropdown

    October 6, 2013 by 452

    I've added a new dropdown in the editTools section of the editor which adds a convenient way of adding templates.

    It's mostly finished, but currently in the testing phase.

    If you'd like to help test it, go to Special:MyPage/wikia.js and add: importScript('User:452/customEdittools.js');

    edit: Testing concluded 2013-10-20, and the script was activated wiki-wide.

    Also new recently is the "Help the Wiki" sidebar message.

    Let me know what you think, or how we can improve it.

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  • 452

    New Wikia rules

    September 20, 2013 by 452

    The Wikia Terms of Use have been updated.

    You can see the changes by clicking here.

    452, Why are you posting about Wikia Terms of Use? What does that have to do with the Saints Row Wiki?

    I'm glad you asked! It's news here because several "local rules" are now "global rules".

    Previously, all "Community Guidelines" have been local-policies which all wikis were free to alter. And they were just that "guidelines", but now, they're part of the Wikia Terms of Use, which means that violation of the Community Guidelines can get you globally banned from Wikia.

    Here are some highlights, which were already against the local policies here, and for which I will now be reporting to Wikia Staff, rather than just blocking locally.

    • "It goes without saying that harassment, threats, bullying and intimidation are not okay."
      • The Saints Row Wiki has previously had a policy of year-long blocks for any harassment.
    • "Respect people's privacy"
      • Privacy invasion comes up surprisingly infrequently, but I've always class…
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  • 452

    Spoilers and references

    August 18, 2013 by 452

    Again: Spoilers are fine, but must be properly referenced, and located in the appropriate section of relevant articles.

    The events of missions should first be added to mission articles. Feel free to create them if they do not exist.

    Do not add mission events to character articles if the mission article does not exist, and do not add the entire walkthrough of the mission to a character article in lieu of creating the mission article itself.

    Here's a reminder summary of the Saints Row Wiki's policies regarding information about upcoming games, spoilers, and speculation.

    This is a follow up to User_blog:452/Upcoming_games

    Saying "No Spoilers" on a site which claims to be "The most comprehensive Saints Row information archive" would be ridiculous.

    "Spoilers alerts" have no place here. This wiki should contains all information, therefore it should be assumed that it contains spoilers.

    The only policy we have regarding spoilers is that spoilers only be posted in relevant places.

    Adding info about John…

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  • 452

    Gang Task Forces

    July 15, 2013 by 452

    As per the User Groups 2013 blog post, User Groups have been renamed to Task Forces, and re-structured.

    In addition to the focus-related groups found at Category:Task Force, there are also gang-related groups which can be found at Category:Task Force/Gang.

    These focus of these task forces are anything to do with the gang - mostly characters and missions, but also peripheral topics such as which vehicles and weapons the gangs use.
    As there is much overlap, Category:Task Force/Character should also be checked for issues and discussions which may be relevant.
    • If you want to co-ordinate improving all Character articles, use the Character Task Force.
    • If you just want to co-ordinate Vice Kings related articles, use the Vice Kings Task Force.

    You don't have to "join" any of the Task Force groups, you can feel free to post blog posts to each group if you have something to add.

    As usual, these groups are an experiment, if they work, they work. If no-one uses them, they'll be deleted in a year from now.


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  • 452


    May 29, 2013 by 452

    We now have Portal pages for each major game in the series, containing links to every article related to each game.

    • Portal:Saints Row
    • Portal:Saints Row 2
    • Portal:Saints Row: The Third
    • Portal:Saints Row IV

    We've had a well-designed category system for some time, but the only problem is that Category:Games only links to the "in Saints Row X" pages, so you can't get to the Fine Aim article starting from Category:Saints Row 2. The new Portal pages solve that problem, so it's easy to see which articles related to each game.

    They're still being improved, one concern is that they're currently a little plain, I've tried adding more columns to Portal:Saints Row to fill the some the blank space, and Moozipan Cheese has suggested adding images.

    What do you think?

    If you'd like to redesign one of the Portal pages, feel free to create a draft page, like Portal:Saints_Row/draft7, and do whatever you like.

    You don't need to keep the current columns, but please keep each major section intact.

    If you have ideas, b…

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  • 452

    Site style

    April 9, 2013 by 452

    As you can see, or will see as soon as your browser cache updates, I've updated the site style with a little more pizzazz.

    I'd like some general feedback, do you like it, was it better the old way, have I completely wasted my time, did you even notice the difference?

    If something doesn't look right, please let me know. Here, in the comments section of this blog post.
    I've been testing it over the past few weeks and haven't run into any issues personally, but if you're finding something difficult to read, or just think something looks out of place, please leave a comment with your browser version and I'll look into it. (A screenshot of the problem would definitely help me understand and fix any issues you may have.)

    Additionally, if you see anything which you think looks a little plain and I've forgotten to style, please let me know, and also feel free to make any additional suggestions of any way you think the general look can be improved

    I've also updated the monobook style a little.

    If …

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  • 452

    User Groups 2013

    March 22, 2013 by 452

    Requesting feedback, please respond, or take the poll

    Since the old User Group pages are confusing, I've decided to overhaul them again to make them much more useful, and integrated with the new user infobox.

    In case you haven't noticed, everyone now has a shiny new blank user infobox on your user page, feel free to fill it out at your leisure. When you fill it out, you will automatically be added to the Project Task Forces relevant to your indicated interests.

    Our old User Group page is Saints Row Wiki:User Groups, and there is some historical discussion on Saints Row Wiki talk:User Groups.

    That User Groups page on this wiki has been here for a long time, and has had a lot of changes. It started out in 2009 as a place for people to just say "I want to be in the Los Brothers of Oiran gang!" and didn't actually have a purpose.

    It was re-purposed over a year ago, because User Groups (AKA Projects, or Task Forces) on wikis are usually dedicated to editing and maintaining specific sections of…

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  • 452

    Unregistered user label

    March 8, 2013 by 452

    Let's vote on changing the unregistered user label: "A Wikia contributor"

    Anyone can edit the Saints Row Wiki, including random passers-by without an account.

    While most people make an account if they're going to be regular contributors, there have been a few long-term unregistered users who have made meaningful contributions - Although it's much harder to "recognise" a user by their IP address alone.

    Some people don't realise that "A Wikia contributor" is the default name shown for any unregistered user. That text is stored at MediaWiki:Oasis-anon-user, which means that it can be changed.

    I think it should be changed, to make it clearer that it is not a username.

    Do you have any good names in mind?

    Post your suggestions below.
    • One suggestion per post.
    • If you agree with a name, reply to that comment saying it.
    • Anyone can vote, including unregistered users :)
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  • 452

    Updates 2012-09

    September 4, 2012 by 452

    Do you find this wiki useful? It didn't get that way by accident.
    This wiki is made by fans, for fans. We need your help to make it even better.

    This wiki is the most in-depth guide to the Saints Row series, but there's still a lot left to do.
    Our goal is to be as comprehensive as possible, and we always need more contributors.
    It is impossible to "finish" a wiki, the best we can do is do what we know needs to be done.

    Do you play Multiplayer in any game?

    Our Multiplayer articles sorely need improvement. See Category:To-do/Multiplayer for some of the things which need to be done.

    Our articles on DLC for Saints Row also need more information. See Category:To-do/DLC for some of the things which need to be done.

    We could always use more screenshots.

    • See Category:Image requests for a list of articles which are tagged requesting specific images.
    • Take a detailed screenshot of your favourite vehicle.
    • Remember to give your image upload a descriptive filename, that way if it is removed from an arti…

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  • 452

    Updates 2012-07

    July 3, 2012 by 452

    There are 2 new polls and a new dedicated poll list which lists all polls, which will be added to that page instead of having individual News updates for them.

    Poll Top 10 list:Showdown - SR2 v SRTT

    Did you like Saints Row: The Third?

    Poll What should be improved?

    What's the most important area of this wiki that should be improved? The results of this poll will 100% influence article improvement.

    Poll Protagonist name

    How do you think the protagonist should be capitalised?

    • The correct way, according to multiple sources, is "the protagonist".
    • Since it is the only term we call the protagonist, it is permissible to use "the Protagonist".
    • One very good reason to use "The Protagonist" is because "The General" is always used in-game.
    Poll Creating articles

    What should we do about Special:WantedPages?

    • Create short articles for all valid titles on Special:WantedPages, and add to Category:Content requests
    • Maintain valid titles on Special:WantedPages so people know which articles to create, and remove ti…

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  • 452

    Mission flowchart

    June 8, 2012 by 452

    A while ago, Sjacie started a Mission flowchart, but never finished it. He hasn't returned since December, so I'm putting out an open request for help.
    I'd like to get the flowchart finished, so I made a list of all points which need to be verified.
    There are 5 main tests, with a total of 22 individual points which need to be verified.

    If you would like to help, simply verify the information marked with with question marks.

    • If what is posted here is correct, just a short message saying so will do.
    • If something is incorrect, please give as much detail as possible as to what doesn't match your results.

    The starting point overall is Act 2, so a saved game named Return to Steelport would help greatly. If you want to tackle multiple tests, most tests can be done after another, but some require reloading, and I've noted at which points you should make a new saved game to reload later.

    • You don't need to do all 21 tests, if 10 people pick one mission pair each, it's not too much work. A saved game i…

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  • 452

    Updates 2012-05

    May 5, 2012 by 452

    There have been a bunch of behind the scenes updates that will benefit everyone.

    Full Vehicle Details, a Quote index, updated random articles, featured article summaries, dynamic cleanup lists, section transclusion, thin floating galleries.

    • Check out Saints Row Wiki:Quotes for a massive list of all quotes on the wiki.
    • The Index has been overhauled, and is now completely dynamic, which means it's always up to date.
    • All of the templates have also been updated to be dynamic.

    Both the Index, and the Random Templates function due to our very detailed Category system. Categories may not interest you, but it's very important that all articles are correctly categorised.

    We also now have a Featured Article area on the main page, the displayed Featured Article is randomly selected from all Gold Class Articles.

    If you would like to nominate an article to be featured, add

    The "widths" variable sets the width and height of the actual image, while the "width:" variable sets the width of the gallery box, …

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  • 452

    Player article title

    April 8, 2012 by 452

    The player character of the Saints Row series does not have a name, or a consistent title.
    What title do you think should be used for the article about the main character? Please post any reasons for any particular title.

    The article here on the player character was created as "The Silent Protagonist", before being renamed to "The Protagonist" when Saints Row 2 was released.

    The problem with this is that the game never refers to the player as "The Protagonist", which makes it an odd choice for an article title. This wiki extensively uses the term "The Protagonist", simply due to it being the title of the article.

    But nothing is set in stone, and there's no reason the article cannot be renamed to a more appropriate title.

    The very first thing that the player is called in the series is "Playa", during the The Streets of Stilwater opening cutscene. Julius, Johnny and Dex often call the player "Playa", so it seems to be the choice which makes the most sense. The use of the slang spelling "Pl…

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  • 452

    Message Wall

    January 28, 2012 by 452

    Wikia's new Message Wall feature has become available so I have enabled it.

    In case you haven't heard about it, the Message Wall replaces user talk pages.

    Anytime anyone replies to a message you have left on a user talk page, it will be shown in the notification section at the top right of the screen.

    This means that when someone leaves you a message on your talk page, you should reply to their message directly on your talk page.

    There is a box below each messages which says "Post a reply", simply click there and type your response.

    All previous talk pages have been automatically archived, there is a "See archived talk page" link to you talk page archive at the bottom of your Message Wall page.

    Unfortunately, only admins can edit archived talk pages, so if you need something edited for any reason, please contact an admin. Or leave a message below.

    Update: 2015-01-08. All users can now edit archived talk pages, as it was always possible, but Wikia Staff never told me about it despite me ment…
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  • 452


    January 10, 2012 by 452

    Update: Random trivia is now implemented though , so each trivia line is located in each article, instead of all on one page.

    If you want to add a trivia item to the rotation, feel free to add the template yourself, or you can post it as a comment here and I'll add it.

    To be counted as trivia, it should be:

    • Something in-game
    • Something that isn't obvious
    • Something that is written in an article, so the answer can link to the article

    Here's a randomly generated trivia item:

    Original post containing outdated info.

    We're always looking to update our trivia template, but it's a massive task to look through all of the articles in order to find interesting trivia to add.

    If you have some Trivia you think is relevant, feel free to add it to the template yourself, or you can post it as a comment here and I'll add it to the template.

    You can go to and click "edit" in order to see the full list of trivia, which will give you an idea of the type of stuff we are looking for.
    Please be aware that commonly kno…

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  • 452

    New admins

    January 1, 2012 by 452

    We are always looking for new Admins. This is a general outline of what we look for.

    In essence, if you make life easier for existing Admins, you get to be one.

    Adminship is a responsibility. There are a number of areas in which administrators are expected to be active, these are listed on the Saints Row Wiki:Admins page.
    Adminship is not a reward and it is not a honorary title, administrators must remain active, and regularly perform admin-related tasks.

    There is no "application process" for becoming an administrator, simply do your best as an editor, and anyone who stands out as a good editor is eligible, regardless of how many edits they have. What matters is the quality of edits, not the quantity, but users should be a regular editor for at least a month.

    Any good editor who needs access to admin tools is given admin rights.

    Qualities which Admins should have are:

    • Using edit summaries to explain edits.
    • Taking part in Active Discussion, including giving opinions and answering questions.
      • Rem…

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  • 452

    Minor Characters Poll

    November 27, 2011 by 452

    Please take this poll, it will decide whether small articles subjects with very little available information should have a dedicated article, or a section on a larger page.

    The current notability policy on this wiki is that a subject must be able to be linked from multiple pages to warrant having a dedicated article, and that the information in those articles is merged with larger articles.
    This policy has been applied to pages such as the Stilwater Seal, Mr Wong's dog Sadie, various Stilwater Businesses and Brands, and the DJs for each Radio Station. All information on the stub articles about businesses, brands and DJs was merged into the larger articles about the subjects, making the large articles better, and reducing the number of small, uninteresting articles which do not have any other articles linking to them.
    If a Character does not get a dedicated article, then their info is merged with whichever article is relevant to them. All information is kept.
    Many Activity cutscene chara…

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  • 452

    Hitman Targets Poll

    August 27, 2011 by 452

    I'm not sure how to handle the Hitman Targets, so I've created a poll to find out what everyone else thinks.
    Right now, something has to change, and there's 3 different ways it could be done. They all have their pros and cons. One extreme is having a single very long article, the other extreme is having a bunch of really short articles.

    See Top 10 list:Hitman Targets to take the poll.

    As of the 5th of October, option A, the one page solution, has won the poll, and the draft has replaced the Hitman and Hitman Targets articles, the individual pages will be deleted soon.

    We currently have:

    • The Hitman article, which does not currently list the targets
    • The Hitman Targets article, which is just a list of targets
    • The Hitman/Draft test page, which combines Hitman and Hitman Targets
    • 28 Hitman Target pages, one for each Hitman Target in Saints Row 2

    The options are:

    • One page - Merge the 28 individual pages and Hitman Targets into Hitman. (See Hitman/Draft2)
    • Two pages - Merge the 28 individual pages into H…

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  • 452

    Saints Row Wiki Chat

    August 22, 2011 by 452

    I mentioned in a previous News post that Chat had been enabled, but I didn't go into many details.

    • Click here to read the Chat Help page
    • Click here to join the Chat
    • If the chat is ever empty, click here, and leave a message to tell people to join.
    • By default, there are no audio notifications when someone joins, so if someone is idling in there while they're busy editing the wiki, they're not going to see you join immediately. So if there is someone else there, and you say "hi", please don't leave a minute later because you didn't get a response.
      • To enable audio notifications, edit: look at the options panel.
    • There have been a lot of people popping in and out regularly, but since they leave immediately, there aren't many people there at once. If everyone who popped in and out just stayed for a while, there would soon be a group of people.
      • Leaving because the chat is empty is stupid, because leaving causes the chat to be empty.
    • If someone is not there, they cannot see your messages. There i…
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  • 452

    User Groups 2011

    August 12, 2011 by 452
    This is an old blog post about the older user group overhaul.
    For the second user group overhaul, see User blog:452/User Groups 2013
    For the third user group overhaul, see User blog:452/User Groups 2015

    I have overhauled the Saints Row Wiki:User Groups page.
    Anyone who was previously listed on that page as being in a particular usergroup has been removed and must re-add themself.

    I have defined 11 areas of focus, and luckily there are 11 different enemy gangs in the Saints Row series, so each usergroup can have the name of a Gang.

    Membership in a usergroup is not compulsory, but if you have an interest in a particular part of the Saints Row series, or in improving certain sections of this wiki, usergroups will help organise and communicate with people with similar interests.

    The reason for this overhaul is that there has been no organisation or purpose for the usergroups since it was created, and no-one really knew what the page was for, so I have looked at how usergroups work on other wikia…

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  • 452

    Updates 2011-07

    July 9, 2011 by 452

    There have been several updates recently.

    I have added a new section to the main page, a list of random articles.

    Today I have enabled gallery view of categories, which also allows you to sort articles in the category by Alphabetical, Recently Edited, or Most Visited
    If you would prefer to view the list of categories, you can do so by clicking the "Category List view" icon, to the right of the sorting drop-down box.
    The image gallery works best for categories where most articles have images, such as Category:Weapons in Saints Row. There is currently a bug where viewing Template categories does not show anything in gallery view, but you can still switch to list view.

    And I have also enabled chat, which can be accessed at Special:Chat. I'll be idling in there, feel free to drop in.

    I have recently created a template, which can be used to request that an image be added to an article, see the template documentation page for usage deta…

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  • 452


    May 23, 2011 by 452

    Since the Saints Row: The Third Wishlist has been so popular, I have made a wishlist page for this wiki: Saints Row Wiki:To-do list

    Remember, Anyone can edit!, but this wishlist makes it easier for those who don't have time.

    While there have been 45 active editors during the last 30 days, there have also been over 200 registered visitors to this wiki during the same period, and an unknown number of anonymous users.

    I realise that many people do not have time to edit this wiki, so the new wishlist page makes it easy for people to contribute by requesting additions.
    There are many users whose only contributions are fixing typos, and I just wanted to say a big thank you to these people, because every little bit helps.

    If you have an idea to improve this wiki, but don't know how to do it yourself, or don't have time, you can still help improve this wiki by telling everyone about your idea.

    Or if there's some particular information that you are looking for, chances are that someone else will know…

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  • 452

    Category reorganisation

    May 6, 2011 by 452

    I have reorganised all the categories.

    The best way to describe what I did is to simply show you:

    • Browse by Gameplay
    • Browse by Game

    Most categories are in both trees, this makes it easy to find information about a certain game, or to browse the different types of gameplay. Some things that are not specific to any game are not included in the Games tree.

    edit 2012: another way of understanding the categories is to look at the Index, which essentially displays the "Gameplay" category, but with duplicates removed.

    This is phase 1 of the cleanup.

    1) Recategorise categories

    I've put each category into relevant categories, including rearranging the tree to make more sense, and to limit the number of items in each category.
    For instance, previously the Los Carnales category was in the Saints Row category, the Gangs category, and the Characters category. Now, it is only in the Gangs in Saints Row category.
    The Gangs in Saints Row category is in the Saints Row category, the Gangs category.
    This is difficult to visuali…
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  • 452

    Audio files

    May 4, 2011 by 452

    What quotes do you want added to this wiki?

    I've recently added audio files to the Phone Numbers page, as well as the Police Headquarters, and will be uploading audio files for the quotes section of every article.

    If you'd like to have a particular quote added, add the quote to an article, or if you can't remember the entire quote, you can leave a message on the article's talk page describing it, and I'll try to find it.

    Always use the template to add quotes, so the quotes will automatically be listed on Saints Row Wiki:Quotes, and I'll be able to see which quotes need audio added.

    I also wanted to explain the new template for audio files.
    This is the code used for embedding the audio file at the top of this article:

    This wiki is very much a work in progress, so if there are any improvements you can suggest to any articles, or just comment on the articles, feel free to leave a message on any article talk page, or dive right in and add things to articles yourself. :)

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  • Master Sima Yi


    March 15, 2011 by Master Sima Yi

    Allright, people. I'm going to introduce sourcing to the wiki. Sources, or references, show where the information on a certain article comes from, be it games or websites. I want this applied to every article, as I have seen information on a few articles and I'm not too sure about the reliability of these. To add sources to an article, do the following:



    Read this through carefully. I'm pretty sure there will be questions about this, as I really have no idea how to explain things to people (which is a fact, I give very vague explanations). Ask them below, and I'll do my best to answer.

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  • Master Sima Yi

    Yesterday my fellow admin AndyP96 came up with the idea to create a contest for best and most original playable character that the community could create. The contest is up now and you guys, the community, can now send in your creations to either me or AndyP96. The best one will be featured on the main page for one week!

    Read the following article to find out about the rules:

    • Character Creation Spotlight

    Enjoy, people!

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  • Master Sima Yi

    New staff

    August 16, 2010 by Master Sima Yi

    Seeing as the current line of staff didn't work out too well, I am making a complete overhaul to it. I myself have been promoted to bureaucrat and I have already promoted AndyP96 to admin. Though I'm not going to leave it with that. I am planning to promote one more contributor to admin and about five more to modistrator (rollback rights). Below follows a list of requirements to be promoted.

    • 400 edits.
    • Proven himself to be a good community member.
    • Shown to be an active member.
    • Responds to vandalism quickly and efficiently.

    • 100 edits.
    • Shown to be an active member.
    • Responds to vandalism quickly.
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  • Lleowen

    Think page titles are for weenies, or an elaborate hoax by unicorns to undermine the color purple? Close, but not turns out it's really important for Google. Make sure your page title follows this format: the topic of the wiki + Wiki + 3 search friendly keywords. For example, if your Pookie wiki is called Pookapedia, and that's all that is in the page title, then anyone searching for Pookie won't find you. Your pagetitle should say something like "Pookie Wiki - Pookapedia- Pookie quests, walkthroughs and Pookie 2 news". You can make things right by editing MediaWiki:Pagetitle and MediaWiki:Pagetitle-view-mainpage -- check out Demigod's pagetitle for a great example.
    Update Your Main Page
    Google starts indexing your wiki from the main page, so make sure you send Google to the right place. You should link to the most important content on the wiki from your main page. For example, if your wiki is about a role playing game, you should link to 50 of the important characters, items, m…

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