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  • 452

    Dear DLC users, please update Achievements in Saints Row 2 with before and after unlock text for Corporate Warfare Achievements, and please use exProfileEditor to extract the official images from your profile and upload them to replace the "grey background" images currently in the article.

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  • 452

    DRM-Free Saints Row 2+3

    May 11, 2015 by 452

    Saints Row 2 and Saints Row: The Third - The Full Package are now available without DRM.

    As you may know, Saints Row games on PC normally come with Digital Restriction Measures which force you to install Steam.

    But now, perhaps thanks to Deep Silver's ownership, Saints Row 2 and Saints Row: The Third are now available without DRM. No third party bloatware or internet connection required to install.

    • http://www.gog.com/game/saints_row_2 $4
    • http://www.gog.com/game/saints_row_the_third_the_full_package $5

    I've used since it was still called "Good Old Games", and would recommend it to anyone. (System Shock 2 is also available there, and is the only place to buy it without DRM.)

    Saints Row 2 has previously been available without DRM, but this is the first …

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  • 452

    Objective links

    April 21, 2015 by 452


    As you may have noticed, I've been linking the objectives in the mission infobox so that people can quickly find the information they're looking for.

    See here for a list of articles which have already been updated

    The key to doing this is , which creates an anchor for the link to target.

    Here is an explanation of how add objective links and anchors

    Example objectives from Waterfront Rooftop


    Result
    .}}
    !}}

    Put the objective headings in the appropriate place in the gameplay section. Some rewording may be necessary if the existing text glosses over the individual parts of the mission.

    • Here is the diff of the changes: http://saintsrow.wikia.com/Waterfront_Rooftop?diff=243758&oldid=243757

    It's that easy!

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  • 452

    Updating references

    April 11, 2015 by 452

    As you may have noticed, I've been periodically updating old references since December.

    There are currently 3 maintenance pages listing references which need to be updated. These are relatively easy tasks which anyone can do, and are a great way for new contributors to increase their edit count.

    References without descriptions

    References which are missing various types of descriptions, including image and youtube references without captions, as well as raw links.

    This is the most important of these three tasks, because adding descriptions improves the wiki. I have already updated several hundred of these over the past 5 months, and am I leaving it to others to add captions to images and descriptions to youtube links.

    As well as being listed o…

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  • I1west

    TM brand in Punisher

    April 5, 2015 by I1west

    Hey there, that's car maniac i1west here. I hope you remember me.

    Well, we do not have pages for car manufacturers, but. I found a cool fact, that, I believe, you will find interesting enough. I was re-playing The Punisher, a small-known, but awesome game, made by Volition. In the second mission I've decided to take a closer look at the Punisher's car and, well, look at the attached picture! His muscle, though it does not appear in any of Saint's Row games, is made by TM.

    Probably means that Punisher exists in Saint's Row universe as well... Watch your back, Saints.

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  • 452

    Missing time

    March 27, 2015 by 452

    Apart from the removed features, the garish graphics, the bland city, the poor plot development, the lack of character motivation, and the lack of reason to explore... I think one of the main reasons I thought Saints Row: The Third and Saints Row IV were poor sequels is the missing time between the games.

    We've had discussions in the Saints Row Wiki Chat regarding how much better Saints Row IV would have been if the prologue hadn't been so rushed and we'd gotten to take part more of the backstory, but I'd never considered it in the context of why I didn't like the game very much.

    In Saints Row 2, you have been in a coma for *cough* years, so it's perfectly explained why you're out of the loop while the world has changed so much without you. The firs…

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  • Six18

    So apparantly, Saints Row 2 was to be a completely different game had it not been for an animator's laziness. According to an interview with volition the animators animated Julius checking his watch during Saints and Matyrs rather then him running from a gunmen in an alleyway.

    https://youtu.be/JS5t4hpHe34?t=4m30s It goes up until 7:00

    It is part of a video about Dex however, you can watch the whole thing on your own if you wish.

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  • 452

    Logo review

    March 7, 2015 by 452

    |dplcacheperiod=864000 |namespace = |uses = Template:Infobox_vehicle |notuses = Template:Infobox_vehicles |include = {Infobox vehicle}:logo:logo2:logo3:logo4 |noresultsheader=\n |include = {Infobox vehicle}:%TITLE%:logo:logo2:logo3:logo4 |table = class="wikitable sortable",-,Vehicle,Logo,Logo,Logo,Logo |tablerow = %%,,,, |shownamespace =false |ordermethod =counter }} |dplcacheperiod=864000 |namespace = |uses = Template:Infobox_vehicles |noresultsheader=\n |include = {Infobox vehicles}:%TITLE%:logo:logo2:logo3:logo4 |table = class="wikitable sortable",-,Vehicle,Logo,Logo,Logo,Logo |tablerow = %%,,,, |shownamespace =false |ordermethod …

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  • 452

    Version differences

    March 2, 2015 by 452

    Although this is the english Saints Row Wiki, this wiki is not only about the english version of the game: all information about different versions and languages is welcome.

    Some of the most well known differences are the changes in the German, Japanese and Australia versions of the game.

    Here's a site that details many of the differences in the German low-violence version of Saints Row 2: http://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=5975611 (Some of that information has been added here already.)

    Many translations use alternate names for missions which make more sense in those languages, and that kind of information about subtle differences is also welcome here.

    So if you play Saints Row in a different language, feel free to add trivia on h…

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  • OoppDecks

    Character Formulas

    March 2, 2015 by OoppDecks

    I have got an idea that this Wiki should display formulas for characters. This would be especially beneficial for Saints Row 2, as most, if not all characters in the game were made through character customisation, unlike the other games. Character formulas can be found all over the internet in forums and YouTube videos, but it would be very useful if there could be a place where gamers can find useful character formulas in one place.

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  • Bandicootfan63

    So, I've just finished SRIV: Re-Elected and noticed the SaintsRowXDeadIsland coming in 2015 thing. Volition's always had a great sense of humor, but does anyone think that could have some truth to it? It would make sense considering Deep Silver recently bought Volition, right? My theory is that it's either a teaser for some new game (since after Gat out of Hell Volition stated there would be no more DLC for IV) or it could have even been a reference to Gat out of Hell itself, considering the themes of death in the game. Any thoughts?

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  • 452

    How to state a fact

    January 29, 2015 by 452

    Writing on this wiki should be an exercise in brevity, not waffling. Facts should be concise, not vague. You do not need to pad your sentences with redundant words in order to reach a certain word count.

    I have a script which highlights redundant words while I'm editing, so I can reword them. I'm going to share some of the words on that list, and explain why they're unnecessary. Many of these are already covered in this wiki's Manual of Style, but I'm going to expand a little further.

    No one is going to get "in trouble" for using these words, but I will reword them when I see them, and encourage others to do the same.

    The sky is blue.

    Perfect!

    It should be noted that the sky is blue.
    Notably, the sky is blue.

    It is already noted by adding it.…

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  • 452

    Cat and Mouse vehicles

    January 27, 2015 by 452

    I need for someone to upload a xbox 360 save file containing the Cat and Mouse vehicles. Once I have the save file, I can use Stored Vehicle Delivery glitch to move the vehicles to my 100% game.

    Specifically, I want the Verminator, white F-69 VTOL, Tornado, Vulture and Challenger. (I know the Tornado and Challenger are available through other means.)

    Who wants to help me out?

    If you do not know how to transfer your save file from your 360 to your PC, I can give you instructions.

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  • 452

    SRG Dialogue blocks

    January 26, 2015 by 452



    This page has the same information as User blog:452/SRG subtitles, but restructured into blocks for easy copy/pasting.

    Not all subtitles are on this page - only those in blocks.

    The blocks are presented here in alphabetical order, but should be arranged into chronological order when added to articles.

    See also


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  • 452

    SRG audio filenames

    January 26, 2015 by 452

    Since I did this last time:

    These are the descriptors for all of the audio files in the game which do not have subtitles. I have all of the audio files, but I'm clearly not going to upload them all to the wiki.

    But if you need any of these specifically uploaded to the wiki, you can use this list, and comment with what you need.

    For a list of audio files with subtitles, see: User_blog:452/SRG_subtitles


    Filename Category Persona Voiceline
    voc_jezebel_media_00036 1808350199 2281213574 1808350199
    voc_jezebel_media_00034 1808350199 2281213574 1808350199
    voc_jezebel_media_00037 1808350199 2281213574 1808350199
    voc_jezebel_media_00035 1808350199 2281213574 1808350199
    voc_jezebel_media_00030 3312653409 2281213574 3312653409
    voc_jezebel_media_00029 331265340…






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  • 452

    SRG vehicle spawning

    January 26, 2015 by 452

    I got halfway through updating my vehicle spawning calculator, so these results are a little different than in previous games, but this information should be accurate enough.


    Group Characters Vehicles Locations
    spawn_Fraud_Basic All Roads npc_hell_ped_male CometHellbatGoatCorrodaKayak Taxi _A_IF_SE_01 (day:1.0% night:1.0%)_A_IF_SE_01_Adrenaline (day:65% night:65%)
    spawn_Fraud_Tank Highway Only npc_demon_grunt_law Leviathan _A_IF_SE_01_Adrenaline (day:0% night:0%)
    spawn_Hell_Civ All Roads npc_hell_ped_malenpc_hell_ped_angrynpc_hell_ped_depressed HellbatGoatCorrodaKayak Taxi sp_cat_Hell_APC (day:100% night:100%)sp_cat_Hell_Ped (day:100% night:100%)Hazing (day:100% night:100%)sp_cat_Hell_Ent (day:100% night:100%)sp_cat_Hell_Forge (day:100% night:…



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  • 452

    SRG subtitles

    January 25, 2015 by 452



    Use these subtitles instead of typing them manually.

    This page should currently list all subtitles. If you notice even a single subtitle missing, please leave a comment and i'll look into it.

    • See also: User blog:452/SRG strings
    • See also: User blog:452/SRG_Dialogue_blocks


    filename line character subtitle
    voc_jezebel_media_00027 1084656576 2281213574 Okay, I found a way to get you into the chamber they are keeping your friend.
    voc_jezebel_media_00052 4092982162 2281213574 Okay, I found a way to get you into the chamber they are keeping your friend.
    voc_johnny_gat_media_00114 ADR - 279739325 Johnny_Gat Yeah, but I already have the gun drawn, so....
    voc_code4008_media_00000 Open World Nag 1345181894 Remember, everything you do gets us a little bit clo…







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  • 452

    SRG strings

    January 25, 2015 by 452



    All of the strings in the game, except subtitles.

    Use these strings to make articles better, but change UPPERCASE strings to mixed case.

    • See also: User blog:452/SRG subtitles

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  • Bandicootfan63

    I'm a few hours into Gat Out of Hell, and I pre-ordered the game, and as you know that gave me codes for the Devil's Workshop Pack and Plague of Frogs. Anyway, I've found the Shakespearean skull weapon in my inventory, but I can't find the way to change to the Saints wings. Do I need to progress further into the storyline? I've only rallied Blackbeard.

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  • 452

    New Hades Map

    January 23, 2015 by 452

    I enabled the new Wikia Maps feature a few months ago, but there hasn't been much activity so far, so I've gone ahead and created a New Hades map.

    User:WildBrick142 and I have been adding pins to the map, but everyone is welcome to help out.

    Please add any and all locations in Saints Row: Gat out of Hell!

    But please be careful, as it's easy to accidentally click delete instead of cancel. Needless to say, anyone who deliberately vandalises the map will be blocked from the wiki.

    The map can be accessed via Special:Maps/7942, or by clicking the map below.

    If you would like to practice and make test edits, please go to http://maps.wikia.com/ instead of using a map here.

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  • 452

    Gat out of Hell Reviews

    January 22, 2015 by 452

    As Gat out of Hell has now been released, there are many gaming sites giving reviews.

    As with last time, reviews will be collated into one blog post.

    • Please comment below if you would like a review added to this post.
    • Write a summary of the review, including any unique statements about the game made in the review.
    • One review per comment please.
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  • 452

    User Groups 2015

    January 8, 2015 by 452
    Update

    This has now been done. All "Task Forces" are now "To-do lists", located in Category:To-do.

    Original

    The name "Task Forces" was chosen because it was the best we could come up with.

    However, I've since realised that the name "To-do lists" would probably work better.

    I propose that Task Forces be renamed "To-do lists".

    Can anyone think of a reason they shouldn't be renamed, or come up with a better name?

    Examples:


    Category:To-do/Activity "Check the Activity to-do list for ways to improve Activity articles."
    Category:To-do/Audio "Check the Audio to-do list for ways to improve Audio articles."
    Category:To-do/Character "Check the Character to-do list for ways to improve Character articles."
    Category:To-do/Customization "Check the Customization to…



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  • Bandicootfan63

    The Gat Theory

    December 24, 2014 by Bandicootfan63

    So, basically I LOVE Saints Row and I can't wait for Gat Out of Hell to be released. I was playing SRIV on the 360 and I realized something about the name of the GAT V Pack.

    I've read (on here, I think) that the name is a poke at GTA V, although I think it's something a bit more interesting: Gat Out of Hell is the largest of SRIV's expansions/addons, which may lead some to see it as the true 5th entry in the series. What I'm thinking is that the name GAT V might have been Volition's sneaky hint at Gat being playable. Any thoughts? Is this just nonsense? Leave a comment below.

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  • StumbledCross34

    Map Glitch SR3

    December 6, 2014 by StumbledCross34

    I was on the runway at the Steelport airport, when I fell throught the map. I had fallen at least 3 Ultor building's heights. I eventually got teleported back to the runway. I've forgot what I was doing at the time, but it was between the control tower and the personal hanger.

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  • 452

    How to save images from facebook

    November 25, 2014 by 452

    Since Volition have stopped posting concept art to saintsrow.com, apparently the only place to get promo image and concept art is through social media sites.

    Out of twitter, tumblr and facebook, the highest resolution images are only available through facebook.

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  • 452

    Incorrect subtitles

    November 6, 2014 by 452

    It has come to my attention that there are many mistakes in the subtitles on this wiki.

    I added the full list of subtitles to this wiki specifically so that this would avoided, and I made the assumption that users adding transcripts to articles were using the subtitles to build these transcripts, and then made the mistake of not verifying that this was being done.

    I have compared the lines on "Portal:Quotes" with the lines on the "subtitle pages", and generated a list of 2361 possibly incorrect lines. There may be false positives, but there are many confirmed inaccurate subtitles and the only way to confirm is by manual checking.

    I have put the list on Saints Row Wiki:Sandbox/incorrect subtitles, so that other users can strike out entries whe…

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  • Ganja-weed

    Language Problem

    November 2, 2014 by Ganja-weed

    Hello, i have the following problem with the language settings of my Saints Row IV Game: I'd like to play it with german texts, but when i change the language in steam it still stays in english. But it worked yesterday. Does anyone know a solution for this?

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  • 452

    ABCs

    October 31, 2014 by 452

    Because the content of Saints Row is so kid-friendly, there is an unreleased Saints Row children's book, complete with a "Saint's Row"-style misplaced apostrophe in the title.

    }}

    I think it's interesting that this includes both Zinyak, and a reference to Gat being dead, further evidence Gat's death was retconned, and that it was not always planned that he was abducted.

    It also includes Oleg and Josh, without mentioning their (apparent) deaths, so perhaps that was not always planned either.

    Highlight the Quota is strange, apparently Volition must think that removing content from sequels is funny.

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  • 452

    Subjective analysis sections

    October 31, 2014 by 452


    The "Analysis" sections of many weapons articles are very subjective, and should be reworded to be objective and factual.

    For example, "45 Shepherd" currently says "Excellent firepower".

    • "Firepower" is not a weapon stat
    • "Excellent" is not a value for any weapon stat

    We know the "Damage" value. It is 300, which is the highest damage value for any non-explosive weapon.

    Therefore "Excellent firepower" has now been replaced with "Highest damage per round for any non-explosive weapon".

    The same article said "It can destroy vehicles at a much faster rate than the KA-1" - the 45 Shepherd can destroy a vehicle in fewer shots, but it fires 1.6 times per second, so can only do 500 damage per second, while the can fire 5 times in one second and do 800 dama…


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  • 452

    Tips section

    October 13, 2014 by 452

    I propose putting a "Tips" section in mission articles between the "Gameplay" and "Rewards" sections.

    There is already a dedicated Tips article, and many Activities articles already have a Tips section, although it's usually directly above the Trivia.

    The Gameplay section is intended to describe the gameplay portion of each mission, basically everything that the player is required to do themselves. In mission articles, Tips generally end up in this section, and sometimes in the Trivia section, however I think that it would help more if they were in a separate section. This would also give the convenient opportunity to link to the Tips article, in the form of a ":Main article: Tips" line at the top of that section.

    In particular, this would …

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  • 452

    SRIV DLC strings

    September 29, 2014 by 452

    Oops, I never got around to posting the DLC strings. I'll do the DLC subtitles sometime soon too.

    • ACHIEVEMENT_SR4_DLC1_ALL_TOO_EASY = ALL TOO EASY
    • ACHIEVEMENT_SR4_DLC1_BOW_TO_THE_BOSS = BOW TO THE BOSS!
    • ACHIEVEMENT_SR4_DLC1_FRIEND_OF_THE_RAPTORS = FRIEND OF THE RAPTORS
    • ACHIEVEMENT_SR4_DLC1_HEALTH_INSPECTOR = HEALTH INSPECTOR
    • ACHIEVEMENT_SR4_DLC1_HELLO_LITTLE_FRIEND = HELLO LITTLE FRIEND
    • ACHIEVEMENT_SR4_DLC1_INDOMITABLE = INDOMITABLE
    • ACHIEVEMENT_SR4_DLC1_OMGWTFBBQ = OMGWTFBBQ
    • ACHIEVEMENT_SR4_DLC1_RIGGING_THE_RACE = RIGGING THE RACE
    • ACHIEVEMENT_SR4_DLC1_ULTIMATE_HOT_POTATO = ULTIMATE HOT POTATO
    • ACHIEVEMENT_SR4_DLC1_WALKING_THE_DINOSAUR = WALKING THE DINOSAUR
    • cf_mask_superhero01 = THE STRAPLESS WONDER MASK
    • cf_suit_superhero01 = THE STRAPLESS WONDER
    • cf_s…
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  • 452

    Inter-wikia links

    September 13, 2014 by 452

    Required reading: User_blog:452/Always_ask_questions, Help:Interwiki links.

    Since May, I've been attempting to find out the reasons behind the wide-spread use of using interwiki links to link to other Wikia wikis.


    Special:LinkSearch is used to search for external links. Interwiki links do not appear in the list, because they are not registered as being external. This is a known disadvantage listed on Meta:Help:Interwiki_linking

    I have not been able to find any advantages to using interwikia links.

    During my search, I have been called "dumb" for using external links instead of interwiki links, a "fool" for not learning that "I should just do what everyone else does", and had my inquiry thread on Community Central locked for dismissing suggestio…


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  • 452

    DLC images

    September 11, 2014 by 452

    Here is a list of DLC images which should be added to DLC articles:


    }}
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  • Stewrob11

    Dex in Gat out of Hell

    September 10, 2014 by Stewrob11

    Killing Dex is listed as a feature in Gat out of Hell on gamestop.com!


    Product Details:

    After the space faring antics of Saints Row IV, many fans asked what we could do next... the answer? Shoot The Devil in the face. Play as either Johnny Gat or Kinzie Kensington as you tear apart Hell in a quest to save the leader of the Saints' soul. Historical icons, old friends, older enemies, a talking gun, a full length musical number, and a whole lot of other shenanigans all await you in the open world standalone expansion playground that is Saints Row: Gat Out Of Hell.

    Features:
    Play as Johnny Gat or Kinzie Kensington
    For the first time ever, play as the fan favorites Johnny Gat and Kinzie Kensington, alone or in 2-player online co-op.
    An Open World fro…
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  • 452

    Monthly Wiki cursor

    September 8, 2014 by 452

    3 months ago, I proposed that the mouse cursor used on the wiki be changed. As there have been more votes for than against, and no vocal opposition, I have now changed it.

    The current cursor is now .

    The poll for next month's cursor is at Top 10 list:Next month's mouse cursor.

    • If there is no clear winner of each poll on the 1st of each month, the poll will continue until there is.
    • Anyone may propose cursors.
    • Cursors must be Saints Row-related.
    • Cursors must have a visible "point".
    • Existing images may be rotated to the correct orientation.

    (I will edit this post with updates.)


    If you do not wish to use the custom cursor, you are free to set your own in your personal css:

    • Edit
    • To use the default, add:
    • To use an alternate custom custom, add:
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  • 452

    Someone dropped by the chat to ask

    Vacation's Over indicates that the change of appearance is due to re-constructive surgery following the explosion. Why this would necessitate a sex change is up to you to decide.

    My Name is Cyrus Temple establishes that visiting Image As Designed and having your face and voice completely altered is something that happens normally in the reality of the game.


    In addition to the ability to change the appearance of your character are Voices - each has a slightly different backstory, the Eastern European voice in particular making comments which fit with the accent, despite having been born in Stilwater.

    It's impossible for the backstories of all of the voices to be "true" at the same time, so it's up to player c…


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  • 452

    DLC Respect Values

    September 5, 2014 by 452


    I've updated all Respect values for SRIV missions, and I'm currently playing through SRTT and updating Respect values for each mission.

    Since anyone can play each set of DLC missions at any time, I will not be updating Respect Values for any DLC missions.

    Please research and update the Respect values for each DLC mission.

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  • DokEnkephalin

    The Finish

    September 4, 2014 by DokEnkephalin

    Spoilers ahead! This is all about the plot.


    I finally reached the ending, and I was a little disappointed. I expected grand revelations, the villain's master plan and a dose of mindscrew -- like during Matt's rescue, but more. The Boss' line after getting the Iron Saint armor, "It feels like this is what I've been training for!" supports my speculation about what was really going on.

    I find it hard to believe they were able to take advantage of oversights for so long, that they really got under the nose of a galactic conquerer, that they were cheating him at his own game rather than playing it by its design.

    I suspected Kinzie had been compromised early on. First, she brushed aside questions that she should be seeking answers for. Then I over…


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  • DokEnkephalin

    strange signage

    September 3, 2014 by DokEnkephalin

    We WI* & Loyl

    JH FA stop[

    This is on a sign near Keith's rally toward the end of the game. Is this just indicative of a glitch in the matrix, or does it have some esoteric meaning that escapes me?

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  • 452

    Gat out of Hell Challenges

    September 1, 2014 by 452

    As with last year, we've been lucky to have had a gameplay demo where the player, in this case Steve Jaros (), has kindly scrolled through the Challenges list.

    So far, it appears that in Gat out of Hell, all Challenges have been merged into the main quest log, perhaps they found that people overlooked the Challenges submenu last time.

    This time around, however, there appear to be far fewer Challenges displayed by default (56 of 102), and far fewer Rewards. :(

    Last time, the "missing" challenges turned out to be the sequels to "Complete 1 Challenge". This time, who knows, maybe they're unlocked later, maybe they're being deliberately hidden for the demo because "Challenge 57 (Miscellaneous) Dex Tomes Collected (Total 5)" would be too much of …

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  • 452

    Gat out of Hell facts

    September 1, 2014 by 452

    Since User blog:452/Saints Row IV facts worked so well as an information dump, I'm going to go with that format again.

    Saints Row: Gat out of Hell can only hold so much information, so it's nice to have somewhere to list all known information before it gets organised. Please add the facts and references here to relevant articles.

    Any time a gameplay video is released, let me know here and I'll upload 100 screenshots of it for use as references.

    Remember: This wiki does not claim to be a news site. This wiki is the largest and most detailed archive of information about the Saints Row series, it is built by fans, for fans - if you're a fan, and you want to add news, feel free!

    Source Videos

    Official - hosted on one of the official youtube channel…

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  • Charles43

    Where to store a chopper

    August 26, 2014 by Charles43

    if you have chopper were do you put it at?

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  • 452

    Shortening DLC titles

    August 19, 2014 by 452

    In March, I posted a poll "Shortening DLC titles", with two options:

    • Use official titles only, no matter how long they are. (37 votes)
    • Shorten "Saints Row 2: Corporate Warfare" to "Corporate Warfare" (And all similar titles) (2 votes)

    Not a single person gave a reason for their vote. One person left a comment "Looks more proffesional." without stating which looks more professional.

    Despite 37 voting for long titles, not a single person renamed "How the Saints Save Christmas" to "Saints Row IV: How the Saints Save Christmas", and every single person linking to it linked to "How the Saints Save Christmas" instead of "Saints Row IV: How the Saints Save Christmas"

    This tells me that, in practice, people either prefer shorter titles, or don't care.

    Th…

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  • 452

    DLC appearances

    July 28, 2014 by 452

    With things which only appear in DLC, such as Angry Tiger, it's fairly obvious that the intro line should state they appear in the DLC, not that they appear in the game.

    However, what about characters who appear in both the core game and the DLC?

    Just about every Saint in Saints Row IV also appears in the DLC missions, so it seems a little redundant to me to state that "Asha is a character in Saints Row IV and How the Saints Save Christmas."

    Category:Characters in Saints Row IV DLC and Category:Characters in Saints Row: The Third DLC both only list characters who only appear in those DLC.

    While their appearance in DLC definitely warrants a subheading, I'm not sure it needs to be listed in the intro. Especially since that info is also in the infobox …

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  • 452

    Tracking Character cleanup

    July 28, 2014 by 452

    It's no secret that the character articles on this wiki are wildly varying in quality. That is to say: there's much that needs to be improved. I don't spend very much time on them myself, other than minor cleanup.

    The good news is, since all mission articles have already been cleaned up by User:Moozipan Cheese, half the work has already been done.

    There are still many character pages which omit the specific actions of characters during each cutscene. I know that major cleanup of character pages is a daunting task, so let's try to split up the objectives a little.

    When we first started cleaning up character articles, the terrible "mission appearances" lists were changes to references or moved to talk pages for reference. They served as a "…

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  • 452

    Obtaining review

    July 26, 2014 by 452


    A while ago, the vehicle infobox was updated with more fields related to obtaining each vehicle, but there are many vehicle articles which don't yet use the new fields.

    • Any empty fields should be checked.
    • If there are details in the "other" column that belong somewhere else, then the article should be updated.

    (This table is cached for 24 hours.)


    Vehicle parked unlockable gangs law missions homies cost common areas "other" (obtaining) dplcacheperiod=86400 namespace = uses = Template:Infobox_vehicle notuses = Template:Infobox_vehicles include = {Infobox vehicle}:parked:unlockable:gangs:law:missions:homies:cost:areas:obtaining format=,\n-\n%PAGE%\n\n,\n, nottitlematch=Bag Boy noresultsheader=\n

    }}|dplcacheperiod=86400

    namespace = us…

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  • 452

    Capacity review

    July 23, 2014 by 452


    Some vehicle pages do not list the capacity.

    The vehicle infobox contains individual fields for capacity in each game: capacitySR1, capacitySR2, capacitySR3, capacitySR4

    These fields are relatively new, so there are older uses of the capacity field using sup tags for each game.

    If the value is the same in all games, use the single "capacity" field.

    If there is a convertible option, use the maximum value, and note in the modifications section which options restrict passengers.

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    Vehicle Capacity CapacitySR1 CapacitySR2 CapacitySR3 CapacitySR4 dplcacheperiod=86400 namespace = uses = Template:Infobox_vehicle notuses = Template:Infobox_vehicles include = {Infobox vehicle}:capacity:capacitySR1:capacitySR…

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  • 452

    AKA review

    July 23, 2014 by 452

    The AKA field is for alternate in-game names, so all AKAs require references stating the source of the name.

    Redirects should be created for all AKAs, and should be linked where appropriate. All valid redirects should also be added to the AKA field.

    Many already have these, but some older pages still have not been updated.

    This list is cached for 24 hours.


    Vehicle AKA

    a|dplcacheperiod=86400

    namespace = uses = Template:Infobox_vehicle notuses = Template:Infobox_vehicles include = {Infobox vehicle}:aka format=,\n-\n%PAGE%\n\n,, noresultsheader=\n

    }}|dplcacheperiod=86400

    namespace = uses = Template:Infobox_vehicles include = {Infobox vehicles}:aka format=,\n-\n²{ext¦%PAGE%}²\n\n,, noresultsheader=\n

    }}


    |nowords=1}}


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  • 452

    Quote cleanup

    July 16, 2014 by 452

    There is now a Random quote template, which is currently being used to display a random quote on the main page. I've also recently added large quotation marks around quote templates.


    It uses and , so is yet another reason for all quotes to use the quote template, and a good reason to clean up existing quotes.

    • Some quotes in articles still use manually added bold and italics to simulate quotes.
    • There are still many articles with quotes in the trivia sections.
    • Before the template was created, the quote template was being used for multiple lines of dialogue, the quote template is for single quotes only, multiple lines from different people should use .
    • Many quotes do not contain sufficient information about the source of the quote, which is fine wh…

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  • 452

    Disambiguating titles

    April 24, 2014 by 452

    There are many subjects in the Saints Row series which share the same title, so out of necessity, we have pages on the wiki which have notes in the page title to differentiate between them.

    • For example: Guardian Angel (Mission) and Guardian Angel (Activity)

    Since the first words of each is "Guardian Angel" is a ...., the displayed title is a little redundant. The second line on both of those pages is a link to the other.

    So, we're doing a trial run of hiding the (Mission) and (Activity) part of the title on these pages, and on all other similar pages.

    I'd like some feedback on whether or not you find it confusing.

    A similar method of changing the title is also being used on all Disambiguation pages.

    Here's the full list:

    • Angry Tiger (vehicle)
    • Brothe…
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